tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post4739302617826381281..comments2023-07-13T20:05:21.426+04:00Comments on Reaching Broadly: Protest CommitteesKeep Reachinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11251896778558452358noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-54242948636202242052013-03-04T13:05:13.644+04:002013-03-04T13:05:13.644+04:00We have a time limit of 1 hour after the last boat...We have a time limit of 1 hour after the last boat finishes. It is not unusual to hear protests days or weeks after an incident here - a protest committee has to be formed. The 'incident' took place during our Icebreaker series, but as there has never been a protest lodged before there wasn't a committee standing by.<br /><br />I am looking at it as a learning experience. I am not prepared to retire from a race when I did nothing wrong, but if I am disqualified, it isn't going to affect my series result - I have missed too many races this series playing around on bigger boats so am in the bottom half of the fleet anyway!Tinker at Seahttp://www.tinkeratsea.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-81366054192225866792013-03-04T12:50:24.962+04:002013-03-04T12:50:24.962+04:00Time limits should be stated in the Sailing Instru...Time limits should be stated in the Sailing Instructions. If none is stated, then the time limit to file a protest is 2 hours after last boat finishes. Normally all the information about protests, scheduled hearing times, etc is posted at the race office. <br /><br />If the protest was filed yesterday, I would think the hearing was yesterday. Technically, there are no time limits - the parties should be advised of the time and place of hearing and allowed a reasonable time to prepare. In the case of the international jury I attended, the hearings started about 15 minutes after the closing time for protests. And it makes sense to have the hearing when the parties and witnesses are available just after the race.<br /><br />Hearings can go ahead without a party, but the protest committee can also reopen if the party was unavoidably absent.<br /><br />As tedious as it is, take a look at Part 5 of the RRS.<br /><br />Best of luck with it - if, like me, you lose this one on procedural grounds it will be a good lesson for the future.<br />Keep Reachinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11251896778558452358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-38503884568565379062013-03-04T12:45:14.352+04:002013-03-04T12:45:14.352+04:00Like you, I assumed things were handled on an info...Like you, I assumed things were handled on an informal, sportsmanship basis - especially at the Club level. But, once an international jury is brought in then it is handled by the book. Which is not a bad thing - assuming the judges are decent people, it can be a good experience for all involved and even insisting on procedure is a good way to remind everyone that rules exist and need to be remembered.Keep Reachinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11251896778558452358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-10761766220150308252013-03-04T12:25:16.146+04:002013-03-04T12:25:16.146+04:00A timely post for me - I was notified after racing...A timely post for me - I was notified after racing yesterday by one of the organisers that another boat had lodged a protest against me. I'm not sure when the hearing will be, but at least I am a little clearer as to what to expect.Tinker at Seahttp://www.tinkeratsea.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-29446732829465084392013-03-04T04:27:36.830+04:002013-03-04T04:27:36.830+04:00I actually like it when protests are handled "...I actually like it when protests are handled "properly" at a club level too. Once everyone in the fleet knows that protests can and will be followed through, then rules compliance improves dramatically.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-68033949274888446772013-03-03T23:24:11.209+04:002013-03-03T23:24:11.209+04:00This was really fascinating reading. I had no ide...This was really fascinating reading. I had no idea that sailing rules and regulations were handled in such a manner - like a "real" court of law. On thinking about it, it does make sense - on an Olympic level, there can be an awful lot of money involved, in addition to a country's pride and the prestige of its sportsmen and women. It would be cool to see a bit more analysis like this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748587149898746274.post-60223055697398896652013-03-03T22:52:23.384+04:002013-03-03T22:52:23.384+04:00It is an eye-opening experience. Having once been ...It is an eye-opening experience. Having once been responsible for running the protest committee at some junior regattas, I have to say that I think parents can be far worse than coaches. It is especially hard for a parent who doesn't sail (or at least doesn't race) to understand why all these serious grown-ups are treating her little Johnny as if he is being tried in a court of law.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.com